RESPECT! ~originally posted by Bamfette~

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RESPECT! ~originally posted by Bamfette~

Postby kurtlover » Sat Jul 26, 2003 3:51 am

Bamfette originally posted this on 18/05/2003

RESPECT

on the subject of [b[respect[/b] and politeness. Is it really too much to ask that people be polite and respect others opinions/work? Here and at other messageboards things are getting downright nasty. People are spewing venomous, hurtful comments like it's OKAY. And while it may be tolerated at some places, here it's NOT!

I wish for people to read this post at X-Fan by Darick Robertson:

Put up or Shut up

and to see a result of rudeness, see THIS POST by Chuck Austen. he LEFT his forum at X-Fan because of constant, incessant attacks on his character.

~*EDIT*~ also wish to direct your attention to THIS INTERVIEW also with Chuck. look at that, one of the kindest, nicest people i have ever met, driven off the net entirely by this boorish behaviour. And not only that, he had to change his email adress, his ISP, he has police investigating DEATH THREATS, and he is no longer going to his comic shop! people, you are ruining peoples LIVES, here.

Maybe THAT will get it through peoples skulls what hurtful bastards they can be at times. These are people with feelings you are talking about, not some emotionless machine cranking out books. I know some people think Chuck in particular is over-reacting. But I talk to him all the time, and I don't think he is at all. He is no 'coward' he CAN take critisism very well. I have critisized his work myself, and he takes it in stride. But what he has to put up with if he goes on the net, or even if he doesn't now that people are sending these kinds of remarks to his home, (hence the changing of email adresses) or saying them to his face, goes well beyond critique and into hateful and mean comments. some are downright disgusting, like accusing him of being a pedophile. That is SO wrong. And even if they are just thoughtlessness, they still hurt, they can still get him (or anyone else) mad. Yes, he is in a creative field, and should and CAN deal with critisism, but this kind of behaviour calls for more than a thick skin, it calls for him to be emotionless. He is a human being, just like you. Emotiolessness is too much to ask.

Seriously this is a VERY big thing with me. if you bash a creator, and by that I mean saying he/she sucks/is a hack/my 3 year old kid can draw or write better, as opposed to offering up a constructive critique as to WHY you feel that way, (and "this issue sucks because died1!!" does not qualify. that is a fanboy rant.) I will be VERY displeased, and be prepared to recieve what you dish out right back. The second you bash someone, you lose all rights to be treated in a polite manner as far as I am concerned. These people work very hard at what they do. No one ever tries to make a bad comic/movie/etc. They are doing the best job they know how. If the finished product is not to your tastes, fine. No one can please everyone all the time. But do not belittle the work, care and effort that went into creating something by flaming it or the creators involved with a flippant mean-spirited remark or rant. There is a big difference between being critical, and bing hateful. We tolerate critical just fine, hateful, you WILL be punished.

Also, 'soandso sucks because they have this opinion which differs from mine' is also not acceptable. State that the person involved has this opinion and state that you disagree with it, that's fine. But differing opinions is no call for bashing.

Keep in mind that Dave isn't the ONLY creator to be reading these forums. Chuck comes here, others you would never guess at come here. editors, artists, writers, colourists, you name it. This is a PUBLIC forum. It is closed to NO ONE, including any creator who may wish to drop by. Post only what you would want the person you are talking about to hear if you said it to thier face, becasue you just never know.

The same goes for peoples opinons here at the forum. We are a forum of around 1000 members. As such, opinions will vary greatly from one person to another. I am not saying we all have to agree, but we should be able to agree to disagree, and debate the subject at hand with politeness and respect. Belitiling someone's beliefs/opinions will be treated very harshly by moderators and administrators here. Depending on the level of the offense, and if it is a chronic problem, it could result in banning from the forums entirely.

quite simply, play nice, be polite, and treat everyone and thier opinion/work with respect.
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Postby Shadow_Dancer » Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:28 pm

Respect needs to be earned Stormfreak.
Perhaps if you acted with more respect and maturity you would get it back in return.
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Postby Panz » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:02 pm

Stormfreak, I have NEVER ment to give you disrespect. I am sorry if people have treated you unfairly and would like to offer my apology as a mod of this board for not being on my toes enough to catch these things. Sorry

So ... we can get along (or not) and have good conversation, yes?

I don't have a problem with you, but we all have to go by the rules. If you feel that someone is saying disrespectful things to you or is treating you badly, send a u2u to an admin so we can all do our jobs.
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Postby Return of Stormfreak » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:03 pm

Panz, I can't. They keep banning me. :) Supposedly, I beefed with you on Kordey's board, but I *honestly* do not remember that all all. No hard feelings. Cheers!

And thanks for being (wo)man enough to speak your piece. Sorry for the ruckus I've caused w/i the past couple of days. In case you couldn't tell, I tend to be rather...vocal. :D
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Postby Bamfette » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:15 pm

Originally posted by Shadow_Dancer
Respect needs to be earned Stormfreak.
Perhaps if you acted with more respect and maturity you would get it back in return.


bingo. all that i said above, you can forget revieving that kind of treatment BACK it if you are rude to someone else. you lose rights to it as far as i am concerned.
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Postby BamfetteitsStormfreak » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:16 pm

Oh, Bamfette - shut the fuck up! *shudder*

See Panz? Banned. Admins like Bamf can't take responsibility for what SHE does wrong - she can disrespect others, but she wants the people SHE likes to be respected. Go figure.
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Postby Northstars Love » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:19 pm

What is the problem here? SF, I don't hate you. I try to get along with everyone, but if you feel you are being disrespected then why do you continue to return here?

Are you enjoying this?
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Postby BamfetteitsStormfreak » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:22 pm

Originally posted by **Northstars Love**
Are you enjoying this?


And how!

Oh, and thanks for saying that you don't hate me. I guess I have a real reason to live now, don't I? :rolleyes
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Postby Northstars Love » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:28 pm

This is my beef as well. As I said before, I don't know you. But what I do find offensive is the foulmouthed words you use that do not need a place here.

We can clean our slates SF. Agreed?
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Postby OhNoNotStormfreak! » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:29 pm

Agreed! *hand shake!* But Bamfette there is quick on the draw with that ban button.
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Postby Am I Stormfreak? » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:32 pm

Bah, got banned before I could edit. As far as I'm concerned, the offending thread is deleted, and that's all I ever wanted. Like the song says, I'm more than happy - I'm satisfied.
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Postby sevati » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:58 pm

"Never forgot or history is doomed to repeat itself"

SF, you told Panz to go get gangbanged on Kordey's board. That's how the problem started. That was the time our old troll, TAG, started to get into a really nasty fight with you. I left the board soon after.

I predict you will continue to get banned due to the fact you've broken and continue to break several rules. The multiple accounts is reason enough, people have been banned before for only 2 accounts.

Hear hear. Respect is key. You don't have to be foul-mouthed to get your point across.
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Postby CrawleritsStormfreak » Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:03 pm

Sevati, what does anything I said or did at Kordey's board have to do w/here? How was I supposed to know who Panz was, and why was I supposed to care? (No offense, Panz.)

And I'll get banned, register under a completely different name and post to my heart's content, and you'll be none the wiser.

I respect those who respect me. Period!
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Postby Bamfette » Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:12 pm

I on the otherhand respect those who have respect for others, period. I wont defend you or treat you with respect if you attack others. you tell Panz to get gangbanged, act like an ass to anyone who slights you in any way, real or imagined.... pffft.... like hell am i going to treat you with respect if you don't extend that same courtesey to others.
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Postby SheCat » Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:03 am

So that's why X-Day 2003 thread was deleted? I must admit, IMO it did get a bit out of hand.

This is not my feud. I choose not to participate among personal attacks, foulmouthing and uncalled for insults.
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Postby Blue_Demon94 » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:20 am

Originally posted by BamfetteitsStormfreak
Originally posted by **Northstars Love**
Are you enjoying this?


And how!

Oh, and thanks for saying that you don't hate me. I guess I have a real reason to live now, don't I? :rolleyes


First off, I hate disrespetful people to begin with, but aside from that **Northstars Love** is one of the nicest people on this site and I don't understand why you were being a jerk to him. Bamfette is also real nice and that thing (I won't lower my standards by repeating that filth) you said is unexceptable. The reason what you said carries on here is because you carried you're negative personality here. Cursing at members, Mods especially isn't a smart thing to do. Sorry about the rant everyone, but I needed to clear my mind. Also if you're back here under a new name I hope you have changed your attitude too, because this site will be a lot friendlier without having to worry about troublesome people. :D:bamf
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Postby Crocodile Hunter » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:25 pm

Alkuperäinen postittaja Blue_Demon94
Originally posted by BamfetteitsStormfreak
Originally posted by **Northstars Love**
Are you enjoying this?


And how!

Oh, and thanks for saying that you don't hate me. I guess I have a real reason to live now, don't I? :rolleyes


First off, I hate disrespetful people to begin with, but aside from that **Northstars Love** is one of the nicest people on this site and I don't understand why you were being a jerk to him. Bamfette is also real nice and that thing (I won't lower my standards by repeating that filth) you said is unexceptable. The reason what you said carries on here is because you carried you're negative personality here. Cursing at members, Mods especially isn't a smart thing to do. Sorry about the rant everyone, but I needed to clear my mind. Also if you're back here under a new name I hope you have changed your attitude too, because this site will be a lot friendlier without having to worry about troublesome people. :D:bamf


Dude that was like so long time ago.
So was your post too.
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Postby HoodedMan » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:31 pm

And so was your reply... seriously. Don't try to chastise people one and a half years after the fact doing the same thing they were.
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