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Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 3:44 am
by Bamfette
Here is a brief rundown of Nightcrawler's presntly known relatives:

Raven Darkhölme (Mystique, biological mother)
Margali Szardos (foster mother)
Azazel (biological father)
Amanda Sefton (Magik II, alias Jimaine Szardos, foster sister)
Stefan Szardos (foster brother, deceased)
Graydon Creed (half-brother, deceased)
Rogue (foster sister)

and now more in depth info on them...

<b>Azazel</b>

<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/kurtsdad.jpg" align="left">
this is Nightcrawler&#039;s biological father, as revealed inUncanny X-Men #428...
http://nightscrawlers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1677

:azazel



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<B>Raven Darkhölme - Mystique</B>

<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/mystique.jpg" align="left">Mystique is Nightcrawler&#039;s biological mother. She gave birth to kurt while married to a German nobleman, possibly named Eric Wagner, who died under mysterious circumstances. She abandoned Kurt shortly after birth, for reasons which have as of yet not become entirely clear. The most likely explanation seems to be she was attempting to save her own life from villagers angered over the birth of a &#039;demon&#039; by thier esteemed &#039;countess&#039; by sacraficing that of her infant son, who she threw over a waterfall, adopting the guise of a villager to throw them off her trail.

Shortly after, she encountered Sabretooth, who offered her free passage to Canada in exchange for...&#039;favours&#039;... Mystique, desperate to begin a new life, agreed. She then quickly manipulated the situation to her own ends, which resulted in Sabretooth&#039;s capture. But not before she became pregnant with Graydon Creed.
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<b>Margali Szardos </b>

<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/margaliszardos.jpg" align="left">A soceress of the highest caliber, and protector of the Winding Way, whose origin and early history have yet to be completely revealed. Szardos lived in a gypsy community in Germany and central Europe. There, she had a son, Stefan, and a daughter, Jimaine. Szardos also took in the orphaned young mutant named Kurt Wagner. Szardos raised the children in a small Bavarian circus, where she pretended to be a simple fortune teller. Whilst Wagner worked on becoming a circus performer, Szardos trained Jimaine in the arts of magic. The brooding Stefan eventually left the circus to make his own way in life.

Margali blamed Wagner for Stefan&#039;s death. on Kurt&#039;s 21st birthday, she put an enchantment on him which sent him to a pocket dimension resembling Dante&#039;s description of Hell. Jimaine, who had been watching Kurt while in the guise of Amanda Sefton, managed to convince Margali of Kurt&#039;s innocence and Margali forgave him.

Margali is a practitioner of the magical discipline known as the "Winding Way", a mystical path of power that grants those who follow it periods of supreme power and extreme weakness. Margali sought to ascend through its ranks quickly. She learned of an ancient demon buried beneath the city of London, England, and sought to claim its power for herself. To that end, she joined the Inner Circle of the London branch of the enigmatic Hellfire Club as its Red Queen, and manipulated them into unleashing the demon. The Hellfire Club were thwarted by Excalibur.

Amanda, who had gained posession of the mystical Soul Sword, entrusted it Margali, bonding it to her for safekeeping, unaware that Margali would then use the sword to kill the sorcerers ahead of her on the Winding Way. In a period of weakness on the Winding Way, Margali was captured by Limbo&#039;s then-ruler, Belasco, who took the Soulsword. From within her mystic prison, Margali was still able to switch her mind with that of Amanda&#039;s. With the help of Nightcrawler, Margali, in Amanda&#039;s body, rescued Amanda&#039;s mind in Margali&#039;s tortured body. The three then defeated Belasco and his demonic servant S&#039;ym, the Soulsword was seemingly lost in the encounter. Feeling his time of weakness on the Winding Way beginning, Belasco fled. Margali apologized to her daughter, reversed the mind switch, and teleported away. Amanda was subsequently left in charge of Limbo.
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<b>Amanda Sefton aka Magik II, alias Jimaine Szardos </b>

<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/daytripper.jpg" align="left">Jimaine Szardos is the second born of Margali. Growing up in her mother&#039;s circus in Bavaria, Germany, it was there she first met young Kurt Wagner, a young orphaned mutant who had been adopted by her mother. Whilst Kurt was trained in acrobatics, Jimaine was trained in magic. The pair fell in love, but were separated when Kurt was recruited to join the X-Men. Eventually, Jimaine moved to the states and started calling herself Amanda Sefton, an airline stewardess. Hiding her true identity from Kurt so she could learn the truth regarding the death of her brother, Stefan. Her romantic relationship with Kurt has been on again off again since then, they are currently not together. As a member of Excaliber she used the code name DayTripper. Now as protector of Limbo she has taken on the mantle of Magik.
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<b>Stefan Szardos</b>

<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/stefan.jpg" align="left">Stefan is the first born of Margali, and Kurt&#039;s foster brother. The two boys were very close while growing up. Stefan feared turning to the Dark power that was in him, and had Kurt swear a blood oath tho stop him if he ever did anything evil. Stefan left the circus to seek his own way in life shortly after. After the circus was sold to a wealthy American buisnessman who wished to place Kurt in a freak show, Kurt left to find his brother. He found him in Winzeldorf, Germany. Stefan had been killing a local group of children, who he believed where demons. (It would later be revealed that the children were in fact demons. Yet, they were not evil creatures. Stefan consummed by his mad visions did not know this.) Kurt tried to stop his killing spree, and inadvertantly killed Stefan while struggling with him.
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<b>Graydon Creed </b>

<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/graydoncreed.jpg" align="left">
Graydon is Kurt&#039;s half-brother, related by way of Mystique. Graydon was raised by Mystique until it became aparent that he was not a mutant despite having 2 mutant parents, and she then abandoned him. Graydon developed an intense hatred of mutants and formed the Friends of Humanity. Graydon learned of Nightcrawler&#039;s relation to him and lured him to a meeting where he intended to kill him, along with Rogue. Creed taunted Kurt with knowledge of his family before attempting to kill him. the fight went... badly for Creed and Nightcrawler took his place with the help of his image inducer and confronted Mystique, where he learned the story of his abandonment.

Creed was later killed in the Zero Tolerance storyline, aparentlly by Bastion, during his presidential campaign speech by a plasma beam which disintegrated him. It was later revealed that the blast was fired by a future version of Mystique who been sent back in time to ensure her son&#039;s death.
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<b>Rogue </b>
<img src="http://nightscrawlers.com/faq/roguenc.jpg" align="left">She could be considered almost as a foster-sister. Mystique is not Rogue&#039;s true mother, she only raised Rogue to add her to the ranks of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. However, Rogue&#039;s inability to control her mutant powers soon made her leave Mystique&#039;s side and join the ranks of the X-Men. Rogue learned of Mystique&#039;s relation to Nightcrawler, and therefore her semi-relationto him at the same time that he did, though they have never been shown to talk about this, strangely enough.

Rogue is currently with the X-Men.

for information on Kurts Alternate Reality children, such as Nocturne, see this thread: http://nightscrawlers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2217

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:40 pm
by NightPoofer
I wonder who's Mystique's parents are... They must be pretty old, or probably died by now. And I never figured out who Rouge's biological parents were. Those questions might never be answered, or probably will. I don't know! I'm not the one who writes these things!

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:23 pm
by .the.last.star.
did nightcrawler have a daughter named nocturne, or is she someone totally different? if he did, when was this?? :?

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:43 pm
by Thunder Chicken
Nocturne is from an alternate reality. She's not the 'real' Nightcralwer's daughter, but she is a Nightcrawler's daughter

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:49 pm
by Maelstrom
Nocturne was a child of his and Wanda Maximoff's in an alternate universe. All of this stuff is only for the main timeline.

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:18 pm
by .the.last.star.
ooh okay. i was really confused. :oops
. . .thank you very much for filling me in. :)

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:25 am
by se la mamo a kurt
Well i k now that Mystique is kurtie's mother but i overheard that Sabretooth was his biological father my cousin Hitler was wrong.
any way Istill loving Kurtie:surprise:love

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:15 pm
by Siona
Damn. Poor Kurt, being related to Azzy...

...wait. Azazel sounds an awful lot like Azriel, angel of death and destruction. Coincidince? Who knows. :cracked

MAN! Remind me to thank whoever came up with the "cracked" smily!! :cracked :cracked :cracked

~Siona

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:16 pm
by sevati
Originally posted by Siona
Damn. Poor Kurt, being related to Azzy...

...wait. Azazel sounds an awful lot like Azriel, angel of death and destruction. Coincidince? Who knows.

[Accessed August 15th, 2003.]"Azrael." Encyclopedia Mythica. Azrael is the Islamic Angel of Death. Moses asked Allah to let people die because they lived too long and were too weary of the world. So around their 6th or 7th decade, Azrael would come and let them die.

[Accessed August 15th, 2003.]"Azazel." Encyclopedia Mythica. Azazel is a demon in Judaic mythology whose name means Goat-God. On a special day on the calender, one goat was sacrificed to God, the other was for Azazel and let lose out of the town to carry their sins away into the wilderness.

I must say, I don't see any similarities except for the names.

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:20 pm
by Maelstrom
Originally posted by sevati

Azazel is a demon in Judaic mythology whose name means Goat-God. On a special day on the calender, one goat was sacrificed to God, the other was for Azazel and let lose out of the town to carry their sins away into the wilderness.


Hey, is that where we got the term "scapegoat" from? The idea that one can "escape" their sins by placing the blame on a sacrificial animal?

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 6:27 pm
by Siona
Originally posted by sevati Azazel is a demon in Judaic mythology whose name means Goat-God.


Ah, maybe that's why the dude has a beard!! :LMAO

~Siona

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:25 am
by TAG18
KURTS FAMILY IS SO COOL I LIKE HIS FATHER AZAZEL THIS STORYLINE IS GETTING VERY INTERESTING:bamf:P;);):bamf

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:03 am
by Garble
TAG18, I'm glad you like the draco storyline. It's being discussed here:
viewthread.php?tid=1821

Would you please not type in all caps as it annoys a lot of people?

Also, there are restrictions on images inside signatures and that storm animation is way too big.

thanks Garble

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:18 pm
by TAG18
thanks for telling me garble!!;):bamf i'll have to get a new image then:bamf

Azazel

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:38 am
by Nighty
Omg, my father's the devil himself!! Argh!:shocked

Nocturne

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:41 am
by Nighty
Originally posted by Maelstrom
Nocturne was a child of his and Wanda Maximoff's in an alternate universe. All of this stuff is only for the main timeline.


So we may consider Nocturne to be Nightcrawler's biological daughter, right? I'm a bit confused lol!:surprise

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:04 pm
by Bamfette
eh.... sorta... she's in an alternate reality so she is not OUR kurt's daughter, which is why she is not listed. this is only relaties of his in THIS reality.

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:38 am
by NocturnalBAMF
This is my first post! Anyway Nocturne is one of my favorite characters. I like her powers and her personallity~ But she should be on the list~ :wan-kurt = :nocturne

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:36 am
by WWWWWEEEEE55555
well i just wanted to drop in for no reason at all because i wanted too..... OOHH! OXYMORON! anyway.... first of all the scapegoat thing is correct. First used by the Jews a long time ago for Yom Kippur, and they used to put their sins on the goats head and send him out into the desert to die and the sins were considered forgiven. and yes they called it a scapegoat too. No i'm not Jewish, i have been learning about celebration in religion class and i found that pretty cool, so i remembered it. ANYWAY, enough of the lesson plan..... i wanted to know who this Wanda Maximoff lady is i have no idea who she is. one reason may be that my brother only watched the x-men tv show and didn't collect the comic book for my sake but i wanted to know. i know nothing about nocturne or the alternate reality bit. actually i don't know much at all but i wish i did. i went online and found out as much as i possibly could for the sake of my sanity. and this is one of the ones least talked about....... wow i said to much.... shut it up me!

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:35 am
by Tatu
Wanda Maximoff is a mutant known as The Scarlet Witch, she has the ability to, produces Hex Bolts which, as she says, "Make the improbable, a certainty" she can manipulate anything to fall into her favor, so to speak. Shes the daughter of magneto, sister of Quicksilver and is currently a member of the avengers.


Originally posted by WWWWWEEEEE55555
ANYWAY, enough of the lesson plan..... i wanted to know who this Wanda Maximoff lady is i have no idea who she is.

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:42 am
by Bamfette
Originally posted by NocturnalBAMF
This is my first post! Anyway Nocturne is one of my favorite characters. I like her powers and her personallity~ But she should be on the list~ :wan-kurt = :nocturne


no, she shouldn't. she's a great character, yeah, but including her is just going to cause too much confusioin. she is from an alternate reality, the relatives on this lits are from the 616 reality, the main Marvel timeline. i put a link at the bottom of the post to Kurt's AU kids, but i will not add her to this list. this is 616 ONLY.

Who is Nightcrawler's family?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:23 pm
by WWWWWEEEEE55555
wow thanks tatu! now i know who your talking about. i just didn't know scarlet witch's real name that's all. sorry if i offended anyone about that... and sorry about the triple post thing too i didn't know how to fix it but now i do. another thing i did like nightcrawler a lot for a while but then i met my boyfriend<3. i mean hey hasn't anyone else here had a crush on some guy that would never possibly exist in this world? anyway, sorry again!