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Postby MabusRex » Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:53 pm

Isla da Monas? "Monkey Island"? Sure...that's close...yeah... :toothy
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Postby Daycrawler » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:20 am

:D Monos, demonios, ¿cuál es la diferencia? Solo unas cuantas letras... Haven't you ever notice how evil those little monkeys can be... haha. uhm don't worry, I just have an overactive imagination.

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Postby severedconnection » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:12 pm

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I'm not sure if any one know's of the demon in the movie the Exorcist, but people believed that wearing the image of a very high level demon would ward off lower evil spirits. The demon depicted at the beginning of the Exorcist is a demon as high or a small amount higher that Azazel is supposed to be. Real nice guy..hah. :evil
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Postby Siona » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:30 am

Really? Hey, that's kinda cool, thanks for the info!

Speaking of the film (:yech), isn't the demon who possesses the kid Satan himself, cause I remember her (him, whatever, the kid who's possessed at the time...) saying "I'm the Devil. Now kindly undo these straps!"

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Postby Beboots » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:48 am

Hmm... Just a question... I'm not sure if this's been asked before (and I apologize if it has, so feel free to just show me the thread where it's explained...), but who came up with the idea for Azael to be Kurt's father? :? Was he created just for that purpose?

... Same question with Mystique. When she was first designed, was it with Nightcrawler in mind? Or was she created first, or indipendently? :?
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Postby sevati » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:52 am

Originally posted by Beboots
... Same question with Mystique. When she was first designed, was it with Nightcrawler in mind? Or was she created first, or indipendently? :?

Mystique was drawn by Dave Cockrum and pinned up on the wall of his work area. A writer whose name currently escapes me saw her, asked Dave for permission to develop her. Eventually she ended up to be Kurt's mother, though I'm not sure whose decision that was either.
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Postby Siona » Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:01 am

Dave? Put up a poster of a blue chick in his office? Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverrrrrrrrrrrrr!! ;)

Cool story, though, never heard it; fact is always stranger than fiction!

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Postby Tengu Aberdeen » Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:45 am

Originally posted by Bamfette
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yeah, i know. but i really can't answer that particular question right now... it COULD mean Kurt is not a true mutant. but maybe not. it all depends on what Azzy is. you'll find THAT out during the Draco arc of Uncanny. considering the arc has already begun, it really isn't much of a wait.


Not really. Recall that Ororo was thought to be a Goddess, and she was a mutant. Same thing with Apacolypse (shoot! how do you spell his name?! argh!)

It could be that Azazel was a mutant who was mistaken for a God/Demon.
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Postby whitewolf » Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:28 am

Okaaaaaaaaaay.
I'd personally like to leave it at the Crawler is just a mutant, pure homo superior simple. Azazel is just freaky, & i've never liked Mystique. Tough cookies on my part i guess:LOL But seriously, gotta love Kurt, but they're really have gotta have something cooking for it to be this out there
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Postby OutlawStaar » Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:12 pm

Through Azazel it appears Austen has done the impossible. He made Kurt's origin even MORE confusing...

Not to mention by making him a real demon, he makes the demon metaphor literal, and cheapens the strides Kurt has made to find his own humanity (since in reality, he would've been denying his true nature the whole time).

And now Warren's gonna be a real angel too? Fan freaking tastic...
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Postby Crawler » Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:33 pm

You're jumping to conclusions. The story isn't over yet. Patience, patience. ;)
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Postby NightPoofer » Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:29 am

I think that this entire arc thing is so cool! I love being confused by things and this where did Kurt from makes me so happy! :D
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Postby Sock Munkey » Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:05 pm

Frankly, I never care for it when they try to inject too much theology into comics. Yes, it's nice to tie everything together but the whole coincidence of Kurt's appearance was what made him fun. :ooh
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Postby Blackwell » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:39 am

As for myself, I think this whole plot is really cool ^^ I'm the kind of person whole roots for the bad guy (as long as he's a really cool bad guy) and Kurt's demony looks is one of the many things that make him my fav. comic book character. If Azazel is really Satan like he claims, then that leads me to wondering how and in what way it will affect Kurt. Guess I'll just have to wait and see:bamf
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Postby Sylph » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:56 pm

And now I understand the latest Uncanny X-Sprites! Yay!!! And I learned a little about the bible too. I'm one step closer to understanding everything, and knowledge is power....Mmmm...power :lick
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Postby Nightcrawler ZERO » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:51 pm

OK- I'm getting confused here. Sean Phillips drew Azazel as having Nightcrawle'rs hands and feet, but Phillip Tan is drawing him with normal hands (I didn't get a look at the feet) So what's Canon here?
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Postby Garble » Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:00 am

Since Sean Phillips drew Azazel with 3 fingers first, I would say that that is the cannon and the 5 fingers by Phillip Tan would considered a mistake.
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Postby Daycrawler » Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:42 am

Is it me or are they drawing Azazel less and less like Kurt........ In the last Draco he didn't even have his tail. *confused* :(
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Postby Gaz » Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:49 am

He was sitting most of the time in the last Draco. And was wearing a big cloak. You probably wouldn't see much of it. I think it wouldn't make much sense that Azzy would have 5 fingers and Mystique would have five and Kurt has two and a thumb. Can't recall....how many fingers does Nils have?
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Postby RavEnigma » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:29 am

Have any of you read a fic on Fanfiction.net by Michelle2 called "The Truth Hurts"? It features Azzy pretty prominently, and it's somewhat of a combination of comicverse and movieverse, about a 60:40 mix. It's really good.
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Postby RavEnigma » Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:07 pm

There's this one fic, "The Truth Hurts" by Michelle2 on Fanfiction.net that has Azzy in a big role.
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Postby thylacine » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:35 pm

Another thing... in one issue of "The Draco" story, it shows Kurt going to Bermuda (because the island is near Bermuda) and he heads toward the Carribean and Florida... ? This is not right. He would get way lost. Bermuda is way north of that area! Bermuda is actually off the cost of the Carolinas. These writers for Marvel ought to look at a map.
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Postby Nighty » Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:34 am

Nighty has been my favorite the moment i picked up a marvel comic.
Unfortunately i lost track of the storyline since it has become too expensive here in belgium, besides i'd always have to import them, but other than that, is there anyone amongst the nightscrawlers who's first name is 'Kurt' too?
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Postby Talon_Flame » Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:37 am

Personally, I really loved the Draco. Abyss and Kiwi Black are just plain cool and I can't wait to see more of them. I thought it was hilarious that Kiwi Black is portrayed as silent and brooding, then at the end he asks Kurt to celebrate with him at the pub. Good stuff. And would someone like to tell me offhand if either of them appear in any other comics?
And while we're discussing siblings, what about Jillian? Someone admitted she might be his sister and they look a lot alike...and then she sexually harrassed him.:( Eww.
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Postby Bamfette » Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:15 pm

she's not his sister... that was just a friend of mine trying to rile me up, and Chuck got in on it with an interview. but he was just teasing me. she was never intended to be related to him in any way.

as for Azzy's fingers... in 428 he was drawn with 3 consistently (except when in disguise, naturally) after that he had 3 sometimes but it wasn't consistent and sometimes he had 5. just.... an art mistake, of which Draco had TONS. Nils has 5 fingers, btw.
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