However current teleportation technology is nothing like actual teleportation, it's basically copying the info of an object, sending the info through to the target location and reconstructing the object using the info, thereby having now two versions of the object. That would actually be restoration teleportation, because the teleported object could be restored.
to be fair, Picard never liked being anything other than an emissary and introducer to the Federation. He wanted to meet new species, not make them his own. And offer them the Federation. No warfare, no conquering. Hostile species aside, though he always strove (and often succeeded) in finding an escape that was peaceful and non-lethal.ugh! Just bad! Like those big blue beautiful aliens who gotta be saved by a 'white man' who they make their 'new' leader...why not call him Captain John Smith?
Ult_Sm86 wrote:what I will say is that Nightcrawler and the X-Books cannot be held responsible for changing the hearts and minds of people across the world but they can make a dent and I think, for what it's worth, they have.
Jason Aaron...he's a good example of a writer who HAS faced and challenged himself to be humble and brave and make a change in the status quo. What he did in Scalped is transcendent and I believe no matter what he's doing now, the spirit and vision he gained in doing that important work is carried through.
a part of Kurt's lore that has always bothered me is that he's a mutant -- a scientifically proven anomoly that occurs during evolution -- and they make him magic based, and even worse -- mystically religious based. That part has always irked me and while I appreciate his return and Jason Aaron's bravado... I'm secretly waiting for the revelation that neither of the two places the X-Men have visited in this series, thus far, are actually heaven OR hell.i love the speculative interpretations you offer but i'm no scientist, don't have the IQ I suppose, yet I believe there's a special magic in everybody...an elusive instinct, a sixth sense that makes each of us a fifth element - as essential as the given four to the wonderousness all of life
Ult_Sm86 wrote:That would be very ... Spawn... and I'm not a big fan of Spawn.
Wahnsinn wrote:Kurt's teleportation is more like traveling through a wormhole, and the wormhole, in the case of his ability, is the Brimstone Dimension (thanks to Austen). His mutation allows him access to that dimension for the purpose of rapidly traveling from one space to another. The "bamf" is the filling of the vacuum left by the tunnel entrance/exit created, and it can displace liquids and gasses but not solids. The purple wisps are escaping bits of the atmosphere from the Brimstone dimension. The reason Kurt appears to always be in shadow (when artists can be bothered to remember he's supposed to be) is ambient light being absorbed into the access point that constantly surrounds him but is closed until he teleports.
Wahnsinn wrote:On the subject of breaking the white sausage fest, a couple female writers have managed to get in on X-titles in recent years. There was Majorie Liu on X-23 and Astonishing, and Kathryn Immonen is bridging the short gap between lead writers on Amazing. Alas, the Big Two simply don't employ that many writers of color.
sungila wrote:A wingless An crobat of the trapeze. An empathic fifth elemental with a sixth sublimating sense like a medicine smoke - a Brimstone amethyst sanctuary for hope...and the sword-tipped defiance of despair!
sometimes i think it's like this because 'we' the buyers haven't challenged the 'big two' enough
other times i think it's because deep down, immediate cultural representation always lags way behind the familiar comforts of what folks are 'used' to...
sometimes you can open a cage door and a perfectly healthy bird won't fly out...
it's crazy the things we can get used to...the things we willfully accept and even cling to
THIS WILL CHANGE! Because WE have changed... even if we don't want to see or admit it yet...or haven't figured out how to express who 'we' are in comic books- it wouldn't hurt to talk openly about why comics have had such a hard time with this...and what comics may be doing to actually exacerbate the intolerance to change. i gotta believe that there are a lot of people with good intentions who'd like to challenge the editorial mandates maybe even collectively and say - yea, but, we have to do better.
Wahnsinn wrote:f you wanna be geektastic about it, we all have more than five senses. The ones we're taught as kids are the obvious, big ones. The true number may be up around twenty-one. My least favorite has to be itch.
Kurt is supposed to have limited subconscious spacial awareness along with superhuman agility and reflexes as part of his power set. I'd say those are a combination of enhanced proprioception (body part location), equilibrioception (balance and body movement), and magnetoception (direction through magnetic fields), and muscle tension.
Thus endeth today's science lesson.
Wahnsinn wrote:That makes women and non-whites such a tiny minority as to be inconsequential to direct sales. If that's indicative of the larger picture, is it really any wonder that white male characters still dominate the format?
sungila wrote:At least 21! I consider our basic senses to be like primary colors that functionally do not exist apart from one another.
When I speak of Kurt’s (or anybody’s) ‘sixth sense’ – I am speaking of a metaphysical capacity by which a person ‘sublimates’ or diffuses the basic five that associate with the ‘primary self’ into a more actual ‘non-self’ coexistence with a galactic creationary force . The ‘practice’ or ‘pathway’ or ‘special power’ here, the thing that everybody can do, but few develop transcendentally is EMPATHY…or more accurately empathetic kinesthesia by which one’s sense of contained movement and presence in space/time maintains a fluid permeable state.
No, no it's no surprise. There's only been one race and sex that actually went ahead proclaimed "we are made in God's image" and that was the white male.
This 'image' has been acculturated as 'THE' dominate 'image' in modern societal depictions of 'ourselves.' It isn't a 'true' image and never was. Yet, because of the stories we tell and repeat (even the language we use) - because of centuries of this recitation it is very difficult not to reiterate the old standards thus reestablishing the status quo if inequality and prejudice.
The solution is Nightcrawler.
In the modern context it's the X-Men minus the forced stereotypes...it's the 'everybody' team made-up of a collective of one-of-a-kind utterly gifted men, women, adults and children all working, striving, struggling and persevering as a fluid whole.
To me, Comic Books are one of greatest gifts the American crock-pot has served to the universe. It's a new bread for the breaking, a universal grain to sustain us...I think comics always need to innovate, burn spent fields and break new ground - and as long as WE do it TOGETHER - that 'together' will be what is sewn - and the harvest will serve to strengthen that WE.
Right now, American comics need to do something to stay alive. There aren't enough of us buying them, and the numbers make it look like there are fewer of us every month.
Wahnsinn wrote:One of these days, I'll be able to decipher your most poetic posts. Today is not one of those days. I is a wee bit confuzzled
Wahnsinn wrote:ell, you have to remember that it's possible to lose a single sense. Each thing labeled a sense has its own sensor(s).
Wahnsinn wrote: Empathetic kinesthesia sounds like the sense of being able to identify with or vicariously experience the physical movements and balance of another. Is that what you mean?
Wahnsinn wrote:Nah, that's just the group that's come to power in such a way that they could reinforce their idea of it into the modern era. That proclamation is probably as old as religion itself. We're an egotistic sort.
Wahnsinn wrote:The funny part is that he's also, in a way, part of the problem. If it weren't for his outward mutation, he'd be a white dude, as has been shown in a couple stories. That's what the circus audience assumed him to be under his nonexistent costume during his time as an acrobat. When he used to run around with an image inducer, he made himself look like a white dude. He could have been any race, but he went with the one he would've been if he hadn't been born blue.
Wahnsinn wrote:Yes, but how do we eliminate those stereotypes? How many writers can do authentic versions of every culture? I can't really fault white male American writers for wanting to write white male Americans most of the time. It's the one thing they know they can do without offending anyone. The same is true for any other race-gender-nationality combo. In these more sensitive days, there's always that fear of turning a character who isn't like you into an offensive stereotype. It doesn't help any when the classic depiction of a character you've been hired to write is built on stereotypes. Nightcrawler's background has enough of them: the Frankenstein-era torch-wielding mob, an adopted mother who's a gypsy sorceress working at a circus, etc. Avoiding stereotypes is a challenging thing in a medium that's so heavily entrenched in its own stereotype-laden history.
sungila wrote:Right now, American comics need to do something to stay alive. There aren't enough of us buying them, and the numbers make it look like there are fewer of us every month
sungila wrote:There's never been a better time to be into comics. And I am including the Golden Age and Silver Age. Many professional comic reviewers and notorious collectors have called these last 4 years the Second Golden Age of Comics.
And I agree.
Ult_Sm86 wrote:My true concern with teleporting is... will Kurt come back a stronger teleporter after this?
Ult_Sm86 wrote:That's a very pessimistic and honestly, rather baseless assumption. Posted numbers from Diamond aside (which is never the best estimate as anyone in Marvel/DC/Image constantly say online), there is a professed knowledge in this debate that we don't actually have.
Yes, I think it's a safe assumption that more of us could and should be buying... but their prices prevent an easy-to-go-to access but keep in mind kids aren't going to the corner store and dropping a quarter (and then getting change!) for their comics anymore.
sungila wrote::( Oh no, dum dum dum...the thing every poet most fears...the ever-daunting reality check. Hmmm, well let's see if I can conjure any sense out of that stream-of-consciousness post.
Yes, true, but if you peel off the labels, open all the canisters and heap them on a table would anybody be able to definitively sort the infinite array of dynamic strands into whole self-sustaining 'things'...no way!
I actually think that sensory perception is more a function of outside than it is inside...i actually think that 'we' exist as part of collective 'experience' and that our 'self' perceptions are 'there' as 'motivators' to act...or (not)act - as it may be - in accordance with the collective whole. Our 'sixth' sense is actually our true sense and memory of 'being' both spiritually and corporeally cosmically entwined with all-creation.
Our skin...that wonderful organ...is permeable. That's astounding!
I am now utterly confused myself! I have accomplished nothing! But I'm pretty sure I'm on to something...onto something...which is the truest state of being...not here, not there...but 'onto'
YES! In a way...
What I mean is that if you are able to 'transport' or 'teleport' another person...it doesn't just happen when you BAMF...but all the time!
You said this yourself...that breathing portal-ic light that IS Kurt - the way he is absorbed into shadow...like he is part shadow...meaning...he is part of the 'other' and 'all'
The world is shifting never stable...when he 'ports he can't just go to where 'a place was' he must go to where it 'will be' - THUS, when he transports another - he must not transport just who he is touching...but the touch itself, and the fragment of an instant that is the current of time! How could he do this? How? Empathetic Kinesthesia! Right?
Really? That phrase isn't very old. I don't think most religions even had an 'image' of 'one true' God. Egoism is just a philosophy...just another religion...maybe even a product of that proclamation.
I don't buy it Wahnsinn. He made himself look like Errol Flynn because he was a kid...and that was his hero...and because the girl he wanted to date Amanda was white...i don't think he used the image inducer to do anything but try and be 'cool' and 'to fit in.' He had an isolated life, never walked down a street, let alone a New York City street freely.
Kurt is a race unto himself. We all are really. Ethnicity washes out upstream and downstream. I'm actually surprised you'd even argue that Kurt in any way contributes to the problem. More than any character, it's Kurt, who embodies the struggle to find accord, bridge gaps and sustain hope through the most difficult and impossible conflicts.
One of the things about your writing that I really admire is the way you bring a fresh perspective to the x family by bringing in an 'outsider' and having the reader experience her unbiased interactions with the 'team.' Of course, I especially like that it's Kurt who understands her feelings - empathizes with the 'outsider' and patiently provides her an unconditional safe harbor in which to settle and simply 'be' (in fact) he's the first person ever to do this for her...and I love that! That to me is who Kurt is and why I just don't buy that he's part of the problem
Over on the CBR forum site there are sooooo many Nightcrawler haters that obsess about him being a sexist, misogynistic externalization of Claremont's 'knight in shining armor' philanderer - an irrepressible flirt with a prehensile penis - blah, blah, blah...
It's true. I do think the best way to support comic books is to head down to your nearest comic shop and start a folder - hopefully with a young'in. The other day a kid walked by me with a Spider-Man winter cap. I asked him if he was excited about Peter Parker coming back and he gave me a blank look and I immediately understood...ah ha, it's the movie...or the cartoon...not the comic...
So, how much do we really think digital sales are helping here when a it's that easy to rely on the print sale numbers from one region to determine whether a book will be allowed to continue?
The internet can be such a grumpy place. Of course, some of those people might be trolling fans like ourselves, but some of them are probably serious. They may well even have some valid points, but why focus on all the flaws? I, like you, think Kurt is a positive character overall.
sungila wrote:It's sad really. The whole X saga is about confronting hate, prejudice and the societal virus of bigotry; yet...the X books themselves have done so little in curing this ailment.
When I think about the vanity and ill-wrought legacy, despite and maybe even because of the 'good' intentions that seek to break this inexorable bane it makes me frustrated.
Especially the horrible treatment of indigenous characters! Claremont has been a bigtime offender in this area, just like that movie Avatar - he set out to break the mold and do something good...but wound up just reinforcing the same ol' Pocahontas, 'crying Indian', noble savage thing. Dani Moonstar, Forge, Naze, Jame Proudstar... ugh! Just bad!
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