An Argument For Argument's Sake: Why It Works That Kurt Is D
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:15 am
Look, if I'm on this site, that means I'm a Nightcrawler fan. That goes without saying.
It seems as of late though I've had some revelations. Most-times when you find a group of hardcore fans (especially the ones I know in real-life), they seem to be dedicated to the character to the point that it's almost blind-faith. I have recognized distaste, venom, and hatred in voices of Kurt fans towards almost any and all other X-members. Even Marvel classics! They have spat at the names of some of the most accomplished writers that are in the business at this time as well as given the finger to some of the most astonishing artwork in the industry.
I used to share in many of these sentiments. I also was bitter about the death of Kurt Wagner, but as of recently?
I think it makes sense now.
Now hold on! I didn't say it's good. I didn't say I approve, or that it was smart when it happened. I, actually, think that their attempt to make a death that spoke highly to Kurt's character was rather lame. In all honesty,
spoilers!
It could have been Bobby's chest that Bastion's arm reached through, and it would have been equally alarming to the reader. I think they took the cheapest shot (Nightcrawler) because in all honesty, where they were taking the team later has no business with Kurt. He would have never allowed it, and for good story, you need change.
Could they have just moved him to a re-formed Excalibur? Sure, why not!? But as Nightcrawler fans, do you really believe that Kurt would just sit back and not jump back in the fray to assist, and pull them out of a rut before they hit rock-bottom?
Of course he would. That's why Kurt had to die. Because he would never have let the team sink so low.
We see now the X-Men at their lowest. Cyclops has, for all his best intentions, almost entirely re-formed The Brotherhood of Mutants, once controlled by Magneto. With so many of the characters involved in dark ties (Logan's twisted visit into Hell against all his greatest enemies, X-23 on the run from herself, the Uncanny X-Force trying to eliminate Apocalypse once and for all?) Nightcrawler would have been disgusted, overwhelmed, and we would've had a lot of 'let's sit down and talk it out' sessions.
While I enjoy these sessions as much as the next person (I read Brian Michael Bendis' Ultimate Spider-Man after all!)-- I really feel they are not appropriate for an action-team like the X-Men.
But that's all story. The story of the X-Men (in my opinion, which it is just opinion mind you) has improved with the death of Kurt and will probably get better when he shows back up. But the Marvel Story ... that's an interesting place to go.
It seems Kurt's death is more prominent than you may think. With the absence of my favorite team-member, I honestly don't read X-Men comics any more. At all.
I threw Uncanny X-Men to the wayside, (I hate Fantomex/Deadpool), I can't handle a comic about X-23 if every other page is about her relationship with Logan (we get enough of him don't we?) and I really hate Uncanny/New Mutants/Legacy lately because if it's not IceMan or Beast, (or Banshee, who is unfortunately also dead .... until Dead X-Men starts up...) I really don't care about any of the team members.
It's not that I don't like them, but I honestly don't care. Thankfully, a new book is coming out (yes another X-Book!) with a team involving both Iceman and Magneto!!
Kurt would have never sat for that. And it's strange, but because I know that... it makes me want to read it more. Call it dynamite marketing, call it trickery, whatever it is, it's working.
Since Kurt's death I've really dived deeper into Marvel and found a lot of great titles.
Now that I don't spend $3.99 per 6 X-titles I can spend the money on Shadowland event (which was AWESOME!) and branch out from that, now with a new Heroes For Hire squad that is very interesting, and of course the new Spider-Girl!).
Amazing Spider-man has gotten considerably better since Brand New Day (a travesty that thankfully has resulted in some great comics) and even Man Without Fear featuring The Black Panther was a great find! Only one issue in and I love it! Let's face it, without Kurt around, there's no X-Men. With no X-Men for me to keep track of, I have time/money for Marvel's other books, and I can tell the X-Teams aren't hurting that bad 'cause none of the writers are being taken off or artists switched around. Their books are still good, they just don't interest me!
But now I get to see Fraction's work on his true baby, Invincible Iron Man and J. Hickmann's Fantastic Four event which will be the death of a member! (For the Record, I'm calling that it's Johnny.)
I had a hard time dealing at first, like a junky without his drugs, like a fat-kid without his cake, but now that I've had my cake... and I ate it (having read some great Nightcrawler back-issues and experienced an eventful, albeit unoriginal, death of a major character), I think moving on was one of the best decisions I could've made. For myself, for the Company (which is always to be considered, being I can't get what I want unless they do, and they won't get what they want unless I'm happy), and of course, for my wallet.
I hope you enjoy my brief rant & I sincerely hope no one takes it too seriously or too close to heart. I still love the little elf, I still love this forum, and I still can't wait to see what Marvel Comics does next!!
Sincurly & w/ Love!
Ultimate
x's & o's
HAPPY HOLIDAYS
[Edited on 22/12/10 by Ult_Sm86]
It seems as of late though I've had some revelations. Most-times when you find a group of hardcore fans (especially the ones I know in real-life), they seem to be dedicated to the character to the point that it's almost blind-faith. I have recognized distaste, venom, and hatred in voices of Kurt fans towards almost any and all other X-members. Even Marvel classics! They have spat at the names of some of the most accomplished writers that are in the business at this time as well as given the finger to some of the most astonishing artwork in the industry.
I used to share in many of these sentiments. I also was bitter about the death of Kurt Wagner, but as of recently?
I think it makes sense now.
Now hold on! I didn't say it's good. I didn't say I approve, or that it was smart when it happened. I, actually, think that their attempt to make a death that spoke highly to Kurt's character was rather lame. In all honesty,
spoilers!
It could have been Bobby's chest that Bastion's arm reached through, and it would have been equally alarming to the reader. I think they took the cheapest shot (Nightcrawler) because in all honesty, where they were taking the team later has no business with Kurt. He would have never allowed it, and for good story, you need change.
Could they have just moved him to a re-formed Excalibur? Sure, why not!? But as Nightcrawler fans, do you really believe that Kurt would just sit back and not jump back in the fray to assist, and pull them out of a rut before they hit rock-bottom?
Of course he would. That's why Kurt had to die. Because he would never have let the team sink so low.
We see now the X-Men at their lowest. Cyclops has, for all his best intentions, almost entirely re-formed The Brotherhood of Mutants, once controlled by Magneto. With so many of the characters involved in dark ties (Logan's twisted visit into Hell against all his greatest enemies, X-23 on the run from herself, the Uncanny X-Force trying to eliminate Apocalypse once and for all?) Nightcrawler would have been disgusted, overwhelmed, and we would've had a lot of 'let's sit down and talk it out' sessions.
While I enjoy these sessions as much as the next person (I read Brian Michael Bendis' Ultimate Spider-Man after all!)-- I really feel they are not appropriate for an action-team like the X-Men.
But that's all story. The story of the X-Men (in my opinion, which it is just opinion mind you) has improved with the death of Kurt and will probably get better when he shows back up. But the Marvel Story ... that's an interesting place to go.
It seems Kurt's death is more prominent than you may think. With the absence of my favorite team-member, I honestly don't read X-Men comics any more. At all.
I threw Uncanny X-Men to the wayside, (I hate Fantomex/Deadpool), I can't handle a comic about X-23 if every other page is about her relationship with Logan (we get enough of him don't we?) and I really hate Uncanny/New Mutants/Legacy lately because if it's not IceMan or Beast, (or Banshee, who is unfortunately also dead .... until Dead X-Men starts up...) I really don't care about any of the team members.
It's not that I don't like them, but I honestly don't care. Thankfully, a new book is coming out (yes another X-Book!) with a team involving both Iceman and Magneto!!
Kurt would have never sat for that. And it's strange, but because I know that... it makes me want to read it more. Call it dynamite marketing, call it trickery, whatever it is, it's working.
Since Kurt's death I've really dived deeper into Marvel and found a lot of great titles.
Now that I don't spend $3.99 per 6 X-titles I can spend the money on Shadowland event (which was AWESOME!) and branch out from that, now with a new Heroes For Hire squad that is very interesting, and of course the new Spider-Girl!).
Amazing Spider-man has gotten considerably better since Brand New Day (a travesty that thankfully has resulted in some great comics) and even Man Without Fear featuring The Black Panther was a great find! Only one issue in and I love it! Let's face it, without Kurt around, there's no X-Men. With no X-Men for me to keep track of, I have time/money for Marvel's other books, and I can tell the X-Teams aren't hurting that bad 'cause none of the writers are being taken off or artists switched around. Their books are still good, they just don't interest me!
But now I get to see Fraction's work on his true baby, Invincible Iron Man and J. Hickmann's Fantastic Four event which will be the death of a member! (For the Record, I'm calling that it's Johnny.)
I had a hard time dealing at first, like a junky without his drugs, like a fat-kid without his cake, but now that I've had my cake... and I ate it (having read some great Nightcrawler back-issues and experienced an eventful, albeit unoriginal, death of a major character), I think moving on was one of the best decisions I could've made. For myself, for the Company (which is always to be considered, being I can't get what I want unless they do, and they won't get what they want unless I'm happy), and of course, for my wallet.
I hope you enjoy my brief rant & I sincerely hope no one takes it too seriously or too close to heart. I still love the little elf, I still love this forum, and I still can't wait to see what Marvel Comics does next!!
Sincurly & w/ Love!
Ultimate
x's & o's
HAPPY HOLIDAYS
[Edited on 22/12/10 by Ult_Sm86]