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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=5304264

Hearing this on the radio today on my way to the comic book shop made me actually drive right past- willingly!

[Edited on 28/3/06 by Angelique]
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If you like that, then you'll love this:

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I followed this when it happened and it's still cool to look back and read how an indy band with no money beat out the RIAA and changed the way the recording industry treats sampled music rights.

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Post by kurt_the_quick »

interesting. I don't think Marvel and DC will win this one. remember when Fox News tried to copyright "fair and balanced" when Al Franken had it on the cover of a book? that fizzled out relatively quickly. popular support is for free use of words.

...I'm a bit disappointed though. I thought this would be Neil Conan talking about his various guest appearances in Claremount books. :P

but I should have known better, he does Talk of the Nation.

[Edited on 3/28/06 by kurt_the_quick]
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I hope they don't win. I hope they lose, with prejudice, in fact. I went ahead and sent in a pretty scathing commentary about how they'd probably make more money if they focused more on maintaining a consistently high standard of quality than on who has the legal right to use the word "superhero."
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Exactly! Concentrating on the commercial aspects will only hurt them in the end. They need to be producing a product worth protecting. Otherwise, they're only in it for the money :cry - I like it way better when artists and writers enjoy their work and do the best with it they can because its their craft and they respect it. And when the producers and editors support them in that, it's just the best. The books aren't worth reading if they're just being cranked out to make a profit.

I guess there aren't too many products out there like that though :
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Post by Garble »

I think whoever wrote (chiseled?) the legends of Gilgamesh should come back to life and sue Marvel and DC for stealing the concept of a super-powered human that fights evil.

Feh. "Super Hero" is waaaay too general a concept to copywrite.
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Well..... I do think it's silly, but really, that's how trademarks work... Superhero Happy Hour had to change it's name becuase it is a COMIC BOOK. If it was a TV show or movie, it wouldn't have stepped on the trademark. The fact is, silly as it was to register in the first place, the trademark has been in place since 1981. This isn't anything new. The trademark was already in place spcifically forbidding the word 'superhero' be used on comic books, so while the writer/publisher of Superhero Happy Hour was probably unaware that they couldn't use it in the title, that's the way things were...

It can be used on other type of books (Science of Superheroes, anyone?) or in movies, or games (City of Heroes uses the term 'Superhero' throughout quite liberally, they could have had the word 'superhero' in the title of the game, no problem. But they also publish a comic book by the same name, and that would have caused issues.)


as an aside: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4854408.stm

same kinda deal. Apple Computers and Apple Records have existed side by side for many years with little trouble. but now that Apple Computers is getting into music... it could weaken the association that people would grant Apple Records when the word 'apple' is used in relation to music. they have to take action, or they can legally lose the trademark entirely.

and it's not like the word 'apple' is any less generic than the term 'superhero'


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I noticed a while back on one of my Nighty trading cards:

SUPER HEROES (co-owned)...

So...if THAT'S what the two have tradmarked, then using superheroes or super-heroes should be fine...I think...
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Originally posted by Angelique

Hearing this on the radio today on my way to the comic book shop made me actually drive right past- willingly!

[Edited on 28/3/06 by Angelique]
So this radio report turned you sour on Marvel and DC, so you drove past the comic shop entirely? Take your usual comic budget and try out some independent titles. See if your shop can order you Blankets, or Three Fingers, or Dorothy, or any of the other hundreds of cool non-Marvel or DC books. Even with Image, you've got some cool ones like Invincible, Walking Dead, or Noble Causes. Dark Horse has some cool new Star Wars books, Perhapanauts, not to mention Hellboy.

So please, expand your horizons past Marvel and DC instead of just driving past. Unless, of course, the local comic shop only carries Marvel and DC.
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Originally posted by idsunki

So this radio report turned you sour on Marvel and DC, so you drove past the comic shop entirely? Take your usual comic budget and try out some independent titles. See if your shop can order you Blankets, or Three Fingers, or Dorothy, or any of the other hundreds of cool non-Marvel or DC books. Even with Image, you've got some cool ones like Invincible, Walking Dead, or Noble Causes. Dark Horse has some cool new Star Wars books, Perhapanauts, not to mention Hellboy.

So please, expand your horizons past Marvel and DC instead of just driving past. Unless, of course, the local comic shop only carries Marvel and DC.
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LOL Jill!!

There was actually a really great report on Dateline or 20/20 or one of those shows a while back on the importance of trademarking. The one example I remember was the Thermos. Thermos was a company that created and produced thermos'. However, they never trademarked the word Thermos, and therefor lost control. Anything any company created that was like their thermos could be called a thermos in their marketing, and suddenly the integrity of the original thermos didn't matter. They lost a TON TON TON of money over not trademarking that name....

It's not exactly the same as the superhero thing, but it shows why trademarking is important. And really, the trademark doesn't effect ANYONE but people within the industry. Like the comic says, you can still use the word, you just can't use as a marketing device. No big whoop.

EDIT: I actually found the episode written out word for word in an article. It makes alot of sense, and hey, it's business.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/GiveMeABreak ... id=1390867

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Actually, you can't use the word superhero to market a book, and you can't use it in the book's title. But I still think it's more than a little ridiculous, almost as if Marvel decided to trademark the word "mutant."
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I always wondered how Mirage Studios managed to trademark the names of the Ninja Turtles...they're the names of frikken artists (and one is also an archangel) for God's sake!
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