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All New X-Men

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:34 am
by Bamfing_Bob
I'm starting a thread on all my comics apparently...

All New X-Men brings the Original 5 X-Men to the present to try and change the outcome of the world. MINOR SPOILERS. It is a really interesting concept. "If I had only known..." personified. Think about it. Almost 50 years into the future. Angel turned Archangel turned empty shell. Jean dead. Scott turned into the very villain he has vowed to protect humanity against. Beast is blue and dying. And Iceman is really the only one who isn't totally effed up. Wouldn't knowing the outcome of their actions cause them to alter the outcome? Or would seeing your past self bring light to how much you have changed? Really cool read. Like back to the future, only with the X-Men :)

Again, only on issue #2, so catch up if you haven't already. It is worth the money.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:59 am
by Bamfing_Bob
On issue four now... great character development. Cyclops now vs Cyclops then. Interesting to say the least...

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:28 am
by Ult_Sm86
It seems really silly.

I'm not so sure I'm interested, but Starfish showed a cover of an issue coming up down the line with a completely different, far more awesome cast of "All New X-Men".

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The title of "All New" is ironic, I get that ... but I still feel their "return" is cheapened by having them interact to such great lengths. It's a bit silly. Seems like a timeline-resetter.

A retcon, if I ever smelt one coming.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:15 pm
by Bamfing_Bob
We can't be sure this is a "new team"... it could be a sub story or a battle that gets intercepted by Scott(s). This is a variant, after all...

And of course it's a retcon! This is kind of the point of Marvel Now!, to phase out, revamp, and introduce new creative teams, books, characters, etc... the biggest example is Amazing Spider-Man. Also, Uncannny Avengers brings back Red Skull! I will drop All-New once it loses my interest, but until that happens I will enjoy the old/new dynamic.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:12 am
by Bamfing_Bob
So #5 came out yesterday. Very interesting Hank-Jean interaction. Jean sees her fate through him. I am really excited to see this develop.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:26 am
by Slarti
I've so far only read the first two, but I enjoyed them. One thing that does confuse me is if they've established for sure that these are the 616 characters or are they another alternate (but really close) timeline's Scott, Jean, Warren, Bobby and Hank? It could really go either way. It could be a funky paradox thing that totally retcons things and loops time around, or it could be a parallel universe. Probably will depend on how sales go, lol.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:06 pm
by Ult_Sm86
It seems like a set-up for a massive retcon. Already they're undoing a lot of stuff...

Including this...
MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:56 pm
by Bamfing_Bob
I am not a big fan of the above possible spoiler, however it does mean Beast is not dead...

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:04 pm
by Ult_Sm86
It's been basically 10 years since Morrison had him redesigned into a "Cat-Beast" and still non-fans, Old School Fans who have drifted away, or casual paserbys to the kids series/movie franchise have no idea who the hell Hank is when they see "Cat-Beast". There is nearly no correlation between the two versions of the same character for most people.

It's a decision that, like taking Oracle out of the wheel chair and back in the suit, will piss of some people, but get back a lot of previous fans/regain new interest. More pros than cons for Marvel's decision than DC's however because their decision with Barbara slighted physically handicapped fans of the character, eradicated an entire character (Steph Brown) out of the continuity enraging her small fanbase, and set a precedence that "We write the stories so we make money not tell the story that works best".

Cat-Beast just pisses off cat fans, really. Or Morrison fans. Not a lot of either of those about to drop a comic because Beast's appearance changed.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:59 pm
by Slarti
I am a fan of that spoiler, because I never cared for cat beast at ALL. I read Morrison's run when it was first out, and unlike a lot of longtime fans I liked a lot of what he did. But not that. I'm happy to see him heading back to a more ape-like design, although I think they need to refine things a bit ... he's got a bit of a pin head. :shifty

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:26 am
by Ult_Sm86
I love this, does anyone know what this is from? It came up when I googled "All New X-Men"...

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Also, there is a small solicit about March's All New X-Men #8 & #9. Seems like the Avengers are not too pleased with time-traveling X-Men from the past. They've had enough Phoenix to last them a life time, now an (arguably) unstable Jean is brought to their present? The girl who started it all?

Thor & Iron Man are not gonna roll over too lightly with that.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:55 am
by Bamfing_Bob
I believe the picture is the cover of a future ANXM, but I don't know which issue. And I agree with the pinhead comment. That's mostly why I'm not a fan. I do like the shift from Cat-Beast.

Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:07 am
by Ult_Sm86
Really funny TUMBLR post about all of this.

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Re: All New X-Men

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:48 pm
by Bamfing_Bob
Horse Beast?! What?!