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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:51 am

If you read "The Avengers", "The Mighty Avengers", "Secret Avengers", "New Avengers", or even "Avengers Academy" you know what I'm talking about when I say:

Wow.

That's a lot to keep straight.

My big problem with Bendis' Avengers was the artwork. Romita's style is either too dated or he's trying to purposely date it, and I couldn't deal with buying issue after issue of that nonsense. He unfortunately has recently returned to the book, (just when I was thinking of picking it up again), but I keep getting told that "Mighty" & "New" are the titles to read anyways.

Anyone else know about this? What's the new team-lineups with Moon Knight off doing his own thing now and Beast back with the X-Men? Is there even still a Secret Avengers?

Which of them is your favorite? Why?

I like Bendis' style of writing, but it was taking on a LOT at once. (Heroic Age nonsense).

Also,

I feel like Avengers Academy is just the Young Justice of Marvel. Am I wrong? Is this a bad thing? I feel like I don't want to read something that is mostly about people training... I can always just read New Mutants for that, right?

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Post by Svartfreja » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:34 pm

First of all, totally agree on the art front. Every time I see Romita's name on the front I cry a little. I feel bad but jeeze... it all just looks so rushed and sketchy and the hair and spider-woman keeps getting manface... it saddens me. I think if he like slowed down or something it wouldn't be so bad...

But aside from the art, the comic itself is pretty freaking awesome. I love the Avengers books. I don't read Secret Avengers because I wasn't reallly interested in any of the characters when it started (though now I have a new found love for Cap and the trades are staring at me). But Avengers, New Avengers and Avengers Academy are just brilliant.

The stories are engaging, the characters are their usual lovable selves and the art (for the most part) is great. Most people that know me from chat know that I stalk particular characters which is why I read Avengers Academy in the first place (for Quicksilver and Tigra and more recently Pym) but the kidlets are growing on me slowly and it's nice to watch new heroes grow and get to grips with the whole 'they're not evil really' thing.

New Avengers is just freaking awesome. The whole team is just brilliant (though of course I focus on Ms Marvel) and now it promises to get even more interesting with the new addition of Daredevil. Which is chiefly because, as anyone that has followed the Avengers for a long time knows, he has flatly refused to join the Avengers (despite repeated requests from Steve Rogers himself) since before the Secret Invasion stuff started.

And so to Avengers. I love this comic (despite the hair and the manface and all of the weird and wonderful cardboard pizza in the background). It's just fantastic. The mix of characters is really interesting and I have so many favourites in theres. I would definately recommend giving it a go even though the art is occasionally painful, it's well worth the read.


(as an aside, the New Mutants are totally over the getting to know their powers thing. They are badass now)
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Post by Freak » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:13 pm

Not a big Avengers fan :3

That said, I frikken love the Revengers.
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Post by Svartfreja » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:54 pm

Blasphemy. That was a waste of an annual.
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:54 pm

Freak, tell me more of this revengers.... Anything like Dark Avengers? Or Venture Bros. "The Revenge Society"?
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Post by Freak » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:58 pm

The showed up in the New Avengers annual. Band of c-list heroes and Wonder Man taking down the New Avengers quite impressively because they think the Avengers do more damage than good.
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:32 am

I like that concept a lot.... They gonna run with it and make a series, at least a mini?
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Post by Starfish » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:26 pm

Out of the assorted Avengers titles, Academy is probably my favourite. And it's much less about young super-heroes in training doing excercises than one might think. It's quite character driven, in fact, and I prefer to watch a new cast grow and develop instead of trying to get into some of Marvel's big and well established heroes with huge backstories.
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:15 pm

Star -- that's a great take. I'm going to peek at that title for sure now, but no promises about adding it to the pull.


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Post by Freak » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:01 pm

I have come to dislike Avengers Academy. Too much teenage angst made worse by the whole powers thing.
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:04 pm

*taps his arteries*

That's like my crack, man.
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Post by Svartfreja » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:05 pm

Okay so... New Avengers had a .1 this week

OMG

So much awesome

I'm totally excited for the next big plot!
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:10 pm

Well out with it! What's the plot? Lol
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Post by Svartfreja » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:12 pm

Well you know me, I don't like to give out spoilers...


But it does include Norman Osborn (who I adore) and, from the looks of the last page, Viper too which fills me with absolute glee. My two favourite villains ^_^
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:04 am

That's pretty sweet. If you can find some panels/previews, I'd appreciate 'em. How's the art in that book lately?

I was contemplating grabbing that in TPB.
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Post by Svartfreja » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:11 am

New Avengers is always pretty good, they had a different artist for the .1 but it wasn't bad still... though Norman was magically back to his cornrows somehow.... continuity fail.
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