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Post by kladyelf » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:13 am

The Nimrod sentinel originally had three fingers, he was probably surprised that his hand went back to his origninal/initial design
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:59 pm

He was talking about Bastion, not Nimrod. Bastion's hands also became 3-fingered.
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Post by kladyelf » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:16 am

And Bastion was originally the first Nimrod Sentinel, he was sucked into the Seige Perilous with Master Mold, (eh, it was the eighties) combining and becoming the Bastion that we all know and loathe :P
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Post by Wahnsinn » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:07 am

I had completely forgotten that the original Nimrod had three fingers. Bastion, however, has always had five fingers on both hands. After Kurt teleported Bastion's left arm off, it grew back with a three-fingered hand. Bastion seemed rather surprised by that, if the art was an accurate indication.

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Post by Angelique » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:04 pm

Wahnsinn wrote:I had completely forgotten that the original Nimrod had three fingers. Bastion, however, has always had five fingers on both hands. After Kurt teleported Bastion's left arm off, it grew back with a three-fingered hand. Bastion seemed rather surprised by that, if the art was an accurate indication.
Either that, or it's an artistic error. Sadly, that would not surprise me. It's not like there haven't already been a number of critical errors in this arc.
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:06 pm

Such ass? (And I'm assuming you mean in terms of artwork?) My only problem with artwork is I don't think the artist in the funeral issue was appropriate, but I didn't see any outright mistakes.
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Post by Angelique » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:17 pm

Domino was shown at the funeral, when she was on the mainland at the time.

Elixir wasn't even supposed to be on the island, and he was shown once or twice all healthy and golden.
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:22 pm

I have this issue. I have read it through many times. I plan on having Matt Fraction sign it next Monday when I see him at Midtown Comics in NYC.

Nowhere in this issue is Elixir or Domino shown. I'm thinking if Elixir had been he would've helped, which I'm still pissed about. You can argue Domino is to the right of Logan walking away in the final panel buuuut.... it's pretty shadowy. I'll ask Fraction when I get there.
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Post by Angelique » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:38 pm

Elixir isn't in Uncanny 524, but he is shown in the "food fight" issue sitting all healthy and golden in the cafeteria.
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Post by Wahnsinn » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:25 am

Angelique wrote:
Wahnsinn wrote:I had completely forgotten that the original Nimrod had three fingers. Bastion, however, has always had five fingers on both hands. After Kurt teleported Bastion's left arm off, it grew back with a three-fingered hand. Bastion seemed rather surprised by that, if the art was an accurate indication.
Either that, or it's an artistic error. Sadly, that would not surprise me. It's not like there haven't already been a number of critical errors in this arc.
I'm pretty sure--digging through the comics at the moment is a tad impractical--that Bastion has retained the single three-fingered hand. I've been trying to remember to watch for that. But, yeah, there have been some artistic errors here and there. One would think the editors would pay attention to such things. :shifty

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Post by neling4 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:57 am

Wahnsinn wrote:But, yeah, there have been some artistic errors here and there. One would think the editors would pay attention to such things. :shifty
Such as Colossus being there to hear that Kurt was dead, then suddenly, he is in sick bay with Kitty, and Magma (?) shouting, "Bring him back!!!" !!!

Kurt and Magma were such close friends.

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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:51 pm

I wonder where this is going...

Warlock not "feeling well".... uh oh.



Fixed the link here.... not sure why it was Skottie Young's drawing pad...

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Post by Angelique » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:28 pm

Speculation on one panel: either Colossus has picked up a new favorite language, Nightcrawler, in his last gasp, manifested a new power, or editors didn't notice that "Da" was misspelled "Ja."
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Post by Ult_Sm86 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:32 pm

... That's not Colossus.

It's a Vampire.

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My bad, I thought you were talking about the link to X-Men #1 previews.

Yeah, I dunno what you're talking about. However: this was the link I actually meant to post not the Skottie Young Live Drawing Pad.

I'm having copy/paste problems lately.

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Post by Wahnsinn » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:43 am

Angelique wrote:Speculation on one panel: either Colossus has picked up a new favorite language, Nightcrawler, in his last gasp, manifested a new power, or editors didn't notice that "Da" was misspelled "Ja."
I vote for the last one.

That page of Hope with the arm is rather touching.

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Post by Angelique » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:38 pm

Wahnsinn wrote:
Angelique wrote:Speculation on one panel: either Colossus has picked up a new favorite language, Nightcrawler, in his last gasp, manifested a new power, or editors didn't notice that "Da" was misspelled "Ja."
I vote for the last one.
And of course that's just the sort of thing it's an editor's job to notice and keep from going to print.
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Post by Dedicatedfollower467 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:14 am

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Considering "yes" and "no" are the first two words you learn in almost every language, I think it's laughable that Kurt and Piotr used "da" and "nyet" or "ja" and "nein" in the first place. Piotr messing up with saying yes -- maybe it's an unconscious thought of what Kurt would've done?

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Post by Wahnsinn » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:39 am

Since "ja" doesn't sound wholly dissimilar from "yeah," I can see a German native retaining his usage of that word. Of course, that doesn't excuse the frequent misspelling of the word as "jah" or "yah." That and "was" often being spelled "vas" are rather irritating. If they're going to have characters randomly speaking in their native tongues, the least they could do is make sure everything's spelled correctly.

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Post by steyn » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:11 am

Dedicatedfollower467 wrote:...

Considering "yes" and "no" are the first two words you learn in almost every language, I think it's laughable that Kurt and Piotr used "da" and "nyet" or "ja" and "nein" in the first place. Piotr messing up with saying yes -- maybe it's an unconscious thought of what Kurt would've done?

IDK... Marvel doesn't interest me much anymore. :(
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Post by Angelique » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:31 pm

As for me, the first words I learned in any of the languages I've had to use conversationally were never "yes" or "no," but greetings, courtesies, how to request assistance, and how to tell someone off.

So to me it's especially weird that Colossus would say "Ja" instead of yes or da.

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Post by Wahnsinn » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:29 pm

Maybe the creative staff was feeling all guilty and ended up thinking of Kurt while writing his buddy and totally failed to catch the misspelling because it was a subconscious act? :smirk

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Post by neling4 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:15 pm

Not really relevant, perhaps, but I say "Ja" still. It's kind of a hand-me-down from my mother and my German grandfather, and a Cincinnati idiom. Oddly, it has been corrupted over the last hundred years or so to sound more like "Yaw" or "Yow".
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Post by Wahnsinn » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:23 am

neling4 wrote:Oddly, it has been corrupted over the last hundred years or so to sound more like "Yaw" or "Yow".
That might depend on where you are. In my region of Germany, it sounds like "yah." The fun one is the shortening of nein to neh. I, on the other hand, am prone to dragging it out and giving my mother-in-law the giggles. There's nothing quite like a "Neiiiiiiiiiiiin!" to amuse her. :LOL

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Post by Dedicatedfollower467 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:43 pm

I guess I can see "ja" continuing -- I usually say "yeah" instead of "yes" (I'm from the Northwest of the US). "Ja" isn't that different of a sound, so I guess I can see Kurt continuing to use "ja."

As for Colossus saying "ja" I still have no idea how that happened or why. Maybe it's a little way of implying that Kurt's spirit lives on in his teammates?

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Post by Trigger » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:46 pm

SPOILERS FOR THIS AND LAST WEEK'S ISSUES:





Yup, he died last issue. This week was his funeral. I'm still bumming the the books off of a friend of mine. He time jumped one last time to get X-force home and that let the virus loose that killed him.

I do have to say though, that there was a really sweet scene in this week's installment between Storm and Logan. The two of them hanging out in Kurt's room reminiscing, it was really well done I think. And very in character for both Logan and Storm.

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